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Axe27
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« on: October 25, 2008, 11:43:15 am »

Or, in simplified terms, an Air burst nuclear weapon. Now, considering there are many different types of nuclear weapons, let's deal with two.

Your conventional hydrogen bomb, and your conventional neutron bomb.

So, let's begin. The Hydrogen bomb airburst less than 30 km over your house. The first effect, is the intense light that will severely damage your retina and may render you blind. The second effect, is the truly intense heat that you will feel. Thankfully, you're not in the immediate area of effect for the blast. Any aircraft flying near this airburst will be incinerated. However, the blast wave overpressurizes the air to something like 300 pounds per square inch, or the inside of your tire. Your ear drums burst, and your house is literally crushed on top of you. Chances are if you were in the park, you will suffer pretty severe burns.

Thankfully, there will be no fallout from the blast, however, a good portion of the area will be really **** up, not to mention that you'll need to see a doctor about your nuke inflicted wounds.  If you were in an air craft near the blast area, you don't have to worry, because your elements will be drifting down to earth with the rain.Ain't life wonderful?

Now, the Neutron bomb. Developed in the 60's, this sucker is more like a conventional explosion in it's detonation, but release of huge amounts of neutrons and gamma rays are extremely harmful to living tissue. Basically, anyone within the two-mile blast radius will be exposed to the lethal dose of radiation, and will die within a day or two.  In addition, any depleted uranium armor or tanks would be bombarded by neutrons and become radioactive again. Many steel products react harmfully when exposed to large amount of neutron energy, such as standard steel used in the framework of tanks, which reacts with paint and combusts. Thankfully, neutron blasts very quickly dissipate, leaving no remaining radiation, aside from the depleted uranium ammunition and pellets that have become radioactive. However, those within two miles of the blast will die within a few days or hours, depending, from radiation sickness.
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2008, 12:14:47 pm »

Both don't sound like much fun.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2008, 12:54:37 pm »

Both don't sound like much fun.

Considering that both are meant to kill you, yes, they aren't much fun.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2008, 03:06:53 pm »


 Still, we are a lot better prepared to deal with the first. It is just injuries afterwards. The radiation option will leave you screwed, even if the initial blast didn't kill you.

 Not to mention the possibility of mutants in the second one. Watch out for cat-sized roaches.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2008, 07:02:58 pm »


 Still, we are a lot better prepared to deal with the first. It is just injuries afterwards. The radiation option will leave you screwed, even if the initial blast didn't kill you.

 Not to mention the possibility of mutants in the second one. Watch out for cat-sized roaches.

Well, the first one actually depends on how far the blast is from the ground. If the blast is close enough to the ground, the resulting fireball (which around the blast site, the temperature can be in the tens of millions of degrees), will cause a lot of destruction on the ground. Not to mention the pressure wave that will destroy mode wood buildings, and shatter most everything else.

Not to mention the fact that a resultant EMP effect will wash over the area, and destroy any running electronics in the area, which will cause more injuries and deaths.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2008, 04:32:45 am »

As for the EMP, can't you avoid it by, you know, grounding your electric appliances and having a surge protector? People never have either of those in the movies. Most things electric explode in a shower of sparks if you as much as look at them funny.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2008, 10:22:09 am »

Not to mention that any nuclear explosive actually designed to blow up will generate an EMP field no where near as big as the explosion proper.  Unless it's an actual EMP bomb (hence, otherwise harmless), any computer actually in danger of frying would be well inside the blast radius anyway.

Unless I'm mistaken, the EMP thing is not the same as a normal power surge.  When it hits a circuit board, it makes stuff arc all over the place, completely ignoring grounding or surge protectors by being pervasive and really powerful.  Good wiring won't save you when the surge is flying through the air.  However, all it takes to "harden" a computer against that is a Faraday Cage.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2008, 12:35:26 pm »

However, all it takes to "harden" a computer against that is a Faraday Cage.

But uh, who has their computer in a Faraday Cage?  That would make it impossible to use.
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2008, 01:06:28 pm »

Not to mention that any nuclear explosive actually designed to blow up will generate an EMP field no where near as big as the explosion proper.  Unless it's an actual EMP bomb (hence, otherwise harmless), any computer actually in danger of frying would be well inside the blast radius anyway.

Unless I'm mistaken, the EMP thing is not the same as a normal power surge.  When it hits a circuit board, it makes stuff arc all over the place, completely ignoring grounding or surge protectors by being pervasive and really powerful.  Good wiring won't save you when the surge is flying through the air.  However, all it takes to "harden" a computer against that is a Faraday Cage.

A Faraday cage is electric shielding around a room ( The room's exterior walls are sheathed in metal, and an electric current run through them) meant to protect the computer from a sudden EMP burst, lightning strike, or a sudden electrostatic discharge. This stuff is usually found in areas were servers are located, and in military grade installations.
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2008, 02:32:39 pm »

A Faraday cage is any grounded conductor around an object. Such as metal computer casing. Or, with little work in the building phase, the iron rods in most concrete structures. How loose the cage can be depends a bit. As the good book tells us,

"The effectiveness of a Faraday cage or shield is dependent upon the wavelength of the electric or electromagnetic fields it is intended to shield. This explains why a microwave oven, for example, can perform such shielding from the observer peering through the metal mesh screened "window" at the front of the oven to watch the cooking process take place. The holes are sized such that the waves within the oven cannot pass through even though visible light which has a much shorter wavelength easily passes through the holes. This also explains how cell phones have improved in building performance using the higher frequencies (shorter wavelengths) of EMFs than the earlier predecessors, notwithstanding improved digital modulation algorithms in so called 3G handsets today and later standards forthcoming. Quality levels of shielding also depend upon the types of metals used in the cages as well as the thicknesses."

So if you want to be safe from an EMP, nail some metal sheets on the walls of your house. Or alternatively, maintain good relations to people with nuclear weapons.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2008, 06:04:09 am »

Alternatively, a car makes an awesome Faraday cage. (You can be struck by lighning and the car (and you) will still be operational.
So, get a kick-ass battery, a wifi/3G antenna, and adaptators, and you will be able to go on the interwebz in an emp storm (at least, you could play Dwarf Fortress :p)!
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2008, 11:17:06 am »

DF doesn't need wifi.
DF just needs computational power.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2008, 12:05:49 pm »

DF doesn't need wifi.
DF just needs computational power.

 And Blood for the Blood God!
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2008, 02:27:06 pm »

DF doesn't need wifi.
DF just needs computational power.

DF needs to download the last version of itself, so that he can take another step towards sentience and world-domination! Also, (temporary) forums needs interwebz to get on.
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